Senior Advocate Vijay Hansaria: it was on the 28 hearing that this request regarding reference was first raised.

J Sharma: it was the AGI's first day.

Hansaria: But he appears for Union of India. We argued, it was heard from time to time. After 20th day reply came and even in reply this argument is not taken. This shows that Union of India is aware that it is not required to be referred otherwise the first preliminary submission in a counter affidavit on the first day or the second day would be that it is required to be referred.