J Narasimha: this is why the committee has suggest that the these are things that need to be institutionalized. What is the body how many officers are there where is the office situated how much staff and security. These are the matters with which we are seriously concerned

Mehta: you cannot open it and paste it again. It has to be broken.

J Narasimha: all this was already under the perview of the Radhakrishnan committee. We have gone through these systems which are being developed over a period of time. After another new person comes new methods are adopted. Is what has actually cause this kind of a problem. The committee has correctly said that it is a systemic problem which needs institutionalization which is the most important part of it. This process on paper everything is good. But then one exam happens and by the time the second exam happens it is a new picture all together.

Mehta: just before the exam under videography and in the presence of two students the box is opened which is broken by the hexa. The footages preserve for future reference. The packet containing 24 papere will be given to each class coordinator who will deliver it to 24 students and 24 students will have to break this open.

Mehta: that keeping in strong room part is also videographed. Everyone signs including the bank manager the representative of NTA and the City coordinator who is a local officer. On the morning of the exam the city coordinator is informed by the DG of NDA that we have decided to use the trunk which contains question papers which is lying in a certain Bank. To the other one becomes redundant. He has to go with the district manager and the representative of NTA and other police officials and under videography he takes custody of this in the motorcade with the police protocol. The police protection reaches every centre and at every Centre this process is replicated.

Mehta: it is in packed in an iron box with a lock which is not an openable lock. Once it is locked it has to be broken. it is one time use. Two trunks of question papers go in a sealed metal box. The vehicle with carries the strong has GPS and it is cracked in the head office of NTA. Even a small movement is recorded. if he holds it would be recorded. The vehicle contains two sets having different questions. They are put into two separate Banks in strong rooms.

Mehta: 24 packets will be filled with completely differently jumbled papers. This packet of 24 is put in a cardboard which has a watermark number which cannot be duplicate easily and city code then Centre code and the packet number.

Mehta: these papers are placed in a box which has the seal which cannot be duplicated. The questions are jumbled up.

J Narasimha: all this was the subject matter of the Radhakrishnan committee.

Mehta: let me complete for my satisfaction.

Mehta: one cities open nobody outside there is permitted to enter the printing press. Everything continues to be video recorded. For each classroom there have to be 24 students. The question paper along with the OMR sheet is placed in a sealed envelope. Nobody can change this. And there are four types of question papers which are coming to you. The printer does not know that for which exam is printing the paper.

Mehta: this goes in a sealed cover to two separate printers. They are identified printers with CCTV cameras and surveillance of CISF. The person goes with the box with some digital key. The person does not know the answer of the key and how to open the box. When he reaches the printer would personally call the Director General that your man has reached and the Director General would talk to the person. Then the Director General would give the code to open it.

Mehta: after that another set of moderators select 100 each and prepare four question papers. So they are also not aware which question paper will ultimately go and become the question paper for the students. Out of the four question papers the Director General NTA selectd two question papers for the same exam. So till then nobody knows which question paper will ultimately be the question paper.